Walker McCall, Ron Dixon, Claudio Caniggia and Lyall Cameron: Alan Pattullo’s dark blue odyssey over five decades

Former fanzine editor, award-winning football writer and one-time Sportscene guest Alan Pattullo tells us why the 87 Skol Cup semi beats any World Cup final, how he risked expulsion from school to watch Dundee play Brechin City and why he joined Dee4Life…

I was born at DRI in April 1973 – so I was just about alive when Dundee last won a major trophy – but grew up in the rural badlands of Angus. I think I picked Dundee to support out of cussedness as much as anything. I note with some pride that my first Dundee match was the first game of the 83-84 campaign at Dens v Montrose in the League Cup. We all know what the last competitive game held there had been. But I chose to shun success at that time and I’m forever glad I did.

While it’s often said that such areas as rural Angus are dominated by United, Dundee were and are definitely well represented in my neck of the woods. But that certainly wasn’t the case at the school I went to on the outskirts of Edinburgh. Rugby was sadly king and a few of us would break out of school on Saturday to attend football matches. I was the only one bound for Dens Park though and it’s funny to look back and think I was risking expulsion to watch us play Brechin City. But the passion was very real then and it’s barely dimmed since, even if the stakes are not quite as high now when it comes to attending games.

Early Dee hero

My first hero, perhaps surprisingly, was Walker McCall, whose No 9 play and height caught my eye. Iain Ferguson was another early favourite, as was Tosh McKinlay, who was a class apart as a left back. Early standout games were Scottish Cup ties v Celtic and Rangers at Dens – I’ve a memory of Ferguson being straight through in the latter game and the ref blowing up for half time! Was always thus.

It was Dens as much as the team that stole my heart, sitting in the old Section F ‘Father and son’ section in the main stand (before being old enough to graduate to the Derry) and the intoxicating whiff of tobacco smoke and pies. I was sitting there with my dad and sister – who, absurdly, cannot remember the game at all – when I witnessed what I consider my greatest match (and I’ve been fortunate to cover three World Cup finals): 2-1 v Dundee United in the Skol Cup quarters, 1987. I can still feel the surge of emotion when Tommy Coyne equalised towards the end. I’m not sure anything has come close to that feeling since.
These reasons, among many others, are why I’m not an advocate for the Camperdown development. Dens is our home.

I grew up on a farm and with a friend down the road – an Aberdeen supporter who then switched loyalties to Forfar – started writing a fanzine that would become It’s Half Past Four …And We’re 2-0 Down (HPF). It summed up that feeling towards the end of the game when you had been reduced to making deals with God if it meant getting a goal that might spur a comeback. Invariably of course that didn’t happen. I remember looking at the clock in the corner at Dens many times and hoping against hope.
The first issue was a more general football fanzine but by issue 2 we had decided to make it a Dundee FC-centric publication. I think my friend, who was a good bit older than me, had found other things to interest him such as girls. I meanwhile was happy to stay up until the wee sma’ hours writing diatribes about Angus Cook and composing all time Dundee disaster XIs etc.

Four edition’s of Alan’s It’s Half Past Four …And We’re 2-0 Down fanzines.

There was not too much content about Dundee to savour beyond what the Courier was reporting. There was barely even a book to buy before Jim Hendry’s fantastic Dundee Greats. I just wish HPF might have extended to more than eight issues.

Challenges of being a Dee and football writer

One time, Ron Dixon invited me to Dens Park. I was just a student and so had to smarten myself up for a boardroom visit. He sat down in front of me and told me that I reminded him a lot of himself, which I wasn’t sure whether to take as a compliment or not. He’d actually bought a copy of the fanzine outside Dens. He thrust a tenner into the hands of one my friends I’d recruited to help me sell them, and drawled: “keep the change”. I like that image.

When I became a football writer professionally, I suppose the biggest problem was that I wasn’t always covering Dundee. I had to get used to not watching them play on a weekly basis. I started freelancing for Scotland on Sunday. Although my first assignment was a 0-0 between Morton and Dundee at Cappielow, it wasn’t always a Dundee game that I was handed. I remember sitting at Palmerston Park while Dundee were winning the league in Kirkcaldy in 1998 and finding that quite hard. But you get used to it and of course, it solved the problem of not having to criticise the team I loved! I didn’t fancy doing it in print that much and having former chairman Derek Souter phone me up to complain, which he did a few times. But Derek and I are all right now. I’ve had a seat near him in the Derry in recent seasons and I enjoy his insight. Although Angus Cook did recently put the phone down on me….

There’s certainly been plenty of news to cover at Dens over the years, that’s for sure. I suppose it started to get really interesting when the Bonettis came in. The Caniggia signing is still hard to process and while I was fortunate to bag a one-to-one interview with him a few months into his stay, I’m still annoyed that my sports editor sent me to interview Robert Prytz – then assistant manager at Hamilton Accies – rather than to cover Caniggia’s unveiling.

Interviewing Caniggia on the Copacabana

He did redeem himself by sending me to Albania for Dundee’s return to European competition in 2003. That was certainly memorable and a real privilege – to be paid to see what I always dreamed of seeing: Dundee in proper European action (I don’t count the Intertoto).

Also memorable but in a less positive sense was the night Scotland were humped 6-0 by Holland in the second leg of the Euro 2004 play off. Reports were just emerging that Dundee were preparing to go into administration the following day and so I was trying to process that amid the wreckage of another failed major finals attempt. I have to confess the Dundee news was uppermost in my mind but I had to try and be professional and concentrate on the Scotland story.

Another memorable moment, and I don’t think I will ever beat this one, is interviewing Claudio on the Copacabana beach during the World Cup finals in Brazil in 2014. I stalked him after spotting him at the Maracana during the France v Germany last 16 game and the following day waited outside his hotel until he emerged. He gave me about 20 minutes of his time and was utterly charming and happy to chat about Dundee after giving me what I needed on what looked like being Messi’s last chance to win the World Cup.

Bringing it slightly more up to date, the recent title winning game v Queen’s Park was a privilege to be at. I would not have been able to go had I not been working as we all know that tickets were like hen’s teeth. Even getting press accreditation was hard enough. But I did and all was going swimmingly until about 12 minutes in when Dundee decided to make it a bit more interesting by conceding two quick goals. My sports editor phoned up at half time requesting 1000 words on the final whistle rather than the 500 previously agreed. They came fairly easily fortunately. And the pint at Larbert station en route home in a pub full of Dundee fans has rarely tasted sweeter.

When I first started the job I did fear it would compromise my relationship with Dundee and maybe it has to a certain extent. You see and hear things you sometimes do not want to. But I’m happy to report that even now when I go to a match as a fan, I slip effortlessly back into the mindset of the teenage me. A week is made a lot brighter if I know there’s a trip to Dens at the end of it, and I can get my scarf on rather than sit in the press box.

Dee4Life and raising a future Dee

I’m still a member of the Capital Dark Blues, I had been aware of the club when I was at school in Edinburgh and even contacted the then convener Grant Anderson about getting lifts up to games but the timings didn’t work. And then I started at Dundee Uni and didn’t have such worries about getting to games. But since returning to Edinburgh to live I’ve had more involvement and in the early 2000s the club was very vibrant – though I also remember attending a Dixon/David Holmes meeting in Edinburgh in the early 90s and Holmes marvelling at the number of Dundee fans present. He said something like if Hearts or Hibs organised a similar meeting in Dundee, they’d be holding it in a phone box! So Edinburgh has always had a really healthy number of active Dundee fans, but I think it was at its peak in the early 2000s, when Ivano and Dario Bonetti were coming for question and answer events in Italian restaurants and the annual dinner was being attended by around 150 people.

My love for Dundee remains as strong as it ever was an I now hope to pass that on to my son, Jack. I’m always struck by parents who take a casual view of the matter of their offspring’s loyalties. I know of several who are simply happy if it’s the local team rather than their own. Well, there’s no way I’m taking Jack – who is still only five – to Hibs or Hearts games at the expense of Dundee. Fortunately, he seems to be showing interest. His first game was away at Livingston, the last game of 2021-22 season when we were already relegated. I thought that would be a chilled-out one to introduce him and I was eager for him to be able to say he once saw Charlie Adam play in dark blue – or light blue as it was that day. He’s since been to Dens – a 2-1 win over Ayr United, when Paul McMullan scored a worldie. Jack wears his Dundee strip to tots’ football coaching each Sunday morning and it gives me pride to see that standing out amongst all the usual football tops you’d expect on an Edinburgh pitch.

Dee4Life member Alan Pattullo and his five-year-old son Jack.
Dee4Life member Alan Pattullo and his five-year-old son Jack.

That’s one of the reasons I’m a Dee4life member. This is a tricky and potentially defining time in the club’s history. We all need to ask the right questions and be wary of plans that potentially put the club’s very future at risk. It’s what I would be doing in fanzine days and what I’m trying to do now in a professional capacity.

On the pitch, I’m pretty optimistic. I’m fairly easy to please. Simply knowing I can enjoy Lyall Cameron and Josh Mulligan in a Dundee shirt for another season at least is a welcome bonus, as I had doubted seeing them again after the Queen’s Park title game when they were out of contract and on the radar of other clubs. I’m passionate about seeing young talent from the Dundee area being given a chance and it does seem like Dundee have got their act together on the youth recruitment front.

As for the first team, Tony Docherty has done a sterling job of rebuilding again and I’m glad to see so many from last season returning. I was saying to someone the other day that for the first time in my lifetime there’s not anyone at Dundee United I would take over the current Dundee player in the corresponding position. Not that this is relevant this season when it comes to securing safety in the top flight. But I’m hopeful we can do that.

To join Alan as a Dee4Life member, sign up here for just £10 a year.

Dee4Life – Monthly Update

Dear members,

Another season is upon us, and we look forward to seeing the Championship flag raised at Dens Park on Saturday. On behalf of the Dee4Life board, I would like to wish Tony Docherty and his players and staff all the best of the Premiership campaign ahead.

With a bumper crowd expected for the Motherwell match, we hope not to see any repeat of the lengthy queues at the club shop and turnstiles that have been a regular feature over the past year. This is the issue that members have contacted us about most frequently and we appreciate that work, family, and other commitments mean fans are often unable to purchase and collect tickets in advance or to turn up some time ahead of kick off.

A queue outside the Dundee Direct shop prior to the Inverness game.
A queue outside the Dundee Direct shop prior to the Inverness game.

Our Chair Keith Winter met with John Nelms last week and once again raised the possibility of introducing eticketing and/or a cash gate. The Trust previously offered to financially support the introduction of eticketing and this remains in place. Positive talks took place with the club on this matter but it appears that current contractual arrangements prevented it from being implemented for this season. On implementing a cash gate there remain some issues to address also, though this will again be followed up.

We appreciate some fans remain frustrated about this option being available in the away end and, when Keith raised this point, he was told that this only happens with clubs who cannot operate any online arrangement. We will continue to explore this issue and willing to help fund a short-term solution for season 2023/24 as it is one of our priorities to make it simpler and more appealing for supporters to attend games.

Dundee fans in the Bobby Cox Stand during a game last season.
Dens Park could see a bumper crowd this weekend. Image: Derek Gerrard Photography.

In our recent proposal to the club we outlined ways we can fulfil our key objectives and hope that the club fully engage with us in taking matters forward. I want to thank all of you who took the time to share feedback on the proposal, the vast majority of which was positive.

All our efforts with the club are geared towards fans receiving the information we believe they deserve. In line with our proposal, we would like a Q&A to take place where supporters’ representatives can ask questions relating to the proposed new stadium development and other matters of concern and interest to Dundee fans. The club expressed a willingness to hold such a forum earlier this year and we hope to bring you news on this shortly.

Grant Hill,

Vice Chair

Dee4Life June news – proposal update

Dear Members,

I had my first meeting with Dundee FC Managing Director John Nelms as Dee4Life Chair last week and the proposal we submitted to the club in May was the main subject of discussion.

While there is alignment in some areas there remains a significant distance between the two parties in others and further talks aimed at reaching a formal agreement will be necessary.

We believe the Trust’s proposal – which members can read in its entirety here – is fair and has the potential to help our club prosper. While outlying several ways we can help Dundee’s development, it asks for nothing beyond what Dee4Life is legally entitled to as per the club’s Articles of Association and as outlined in its customer charter.

A huge amount of time and work has gone into rebuilding Dee4Life’s relationship with the club, the objective of which has been to create a vehicle for supporters’ views to be heard and respected at boardroom level whilst agreeing areas of activity the Trust can take in support of the club.

While that relationship has undoubtedly improved, we are fully aware that the most substantive concerns of Dundee supporters remain unanswered. We are giving diplomacy every chance to succeed and have been guided by legal advice throughout but if this path does not lead to the type of engagement we have sought then we anticipate consulting our members over alternative options.

We are keen to hear the views of as many of our members as possible about the proposal and efforts to have fan representation to the board reinstated so invite you to send feedback to contact@dee4life.com.
The more members we have, the more representative of the club’s support we are and the more influential the fans’ voice can be. Please encourage other Dark Blues to sign up.

Regards,
Keith Winter, Chair

Keith Winter, Dee4Life chair

Dee4Life End of Season Message

Dear members,

There were many ups and downs over the course of the campaign but it’s a pleasure to write to you all with our Premiership status restored after a remarkable end to the season.

On behalf of the Trust, I want to thank Gary Bowyer for guiding us back as champions at the first time of asking. He and his backroom staff will always be remembered fondly amongst the Dark Blue faithful.

His departure so soon after a weekend of celebrations came as a shock to many and we hope that the board will move quickly to appoint a new manager, allowing them time to build foundations before the season kicks off again.

As we shared with you all recently, talks have been ongoing between the club and ourselves regarding a future working relationship.

A formal proposal outlining how we see a partnership between the club and the Trust working has now been submitted.

Key to this is ensuring that an appropriate platform exists for supporters’ views to be raised, respected and reflected in decision making by those running the club. As such, we have called for several measures intended to increase the level of fan representation, engagement and communication, along the lines outlined in the club’s own Customer Charter.

We also outlined the various ways we can help with regards to fundraising, the club’s development and growing our support if the board are willing to enter into meaningful engagement of the type we have proposed.

We will update all members once further talks about this have taken place with the club.

Meanwhile, our director Kenny Valentine raised several issues highlighted by members in his latest meeting with Greg Fenton and he was assured that action will be taken over the summer to address the poor state of several areas of Dens Park. The sporadic closure of South Enclosure exit gates will also be raised with Safety and Security Manager Jim Thomson.

Greg also revealed that investment is being made in the club’s media department and DeeTV offering, as well as the wider people resource. More details on these areas will be shared by the club in due course.

Greg has requested that the FAQs arising from our season ticket survey are addressed as part of an upcoming update on developments to be shared with all fans simultaneously. Whilst the delay is frustrating we await the communication and hope it addresses the concerns expressed by members. If not, we will continue to raise these with the club.

All the best,

Ross Day,
Secretary.

New Dee4Life Chair appointed

Dear members,

I am delighted to tell you that Keith Winter has been appointed Dee4Life Chair.

Keith brings with him a wealth of professional experience having held senior positions in local authorities north and south of the border. Before retiring last year, Keith held the position of Executive Director of Enterprise and Environment at Fife Council.

His field of expertise is town planning and economic development and he holds non-executive directorships and other voluntary positions with a number of organisations.

New Dee4Life Chair Keith Winter.

Keith (above) impressed my fellow Dee4Life directors and I with his passion for Dundee and his desire to ensure that the voices of his fellow fans are heard by the club board.

Keith, who has followed Dundee since 1969 and is a member of the Invergowrie Dark Blues, said: “After discussions with representatives of the Trust, I was delighted to be offered the opportunity to fulfil the role of Chair particularly given my long association as a fan of The Dee.

“I hope to bring some of my experience from other roles and organisations engaged in partnership working. I will seek to achieve goals and common objectives, whilst representing the Trust in its purposes, engagement with, and support for Dundee Football Club and its supporters.”

Keith’s appointment was approved by the Dee4Life board at our meeting on Monday 1 May.

Minutes from this meeting will be available online shortly and further updates from the Trust will be shared at the conclusion of the season.

Keith takes on the role from Norrie Price who has stepped down but remains an active board member.

Regards,

Grant Hill (Vice-Chair)

Monthly update

Dear members,

Over the past three months, representatives of Dee4Life have been meeting with John Nelms and other Dundee FC officials. The purpose of these talks has been to establish a framework for the future relationship between the Trust and the club, including the restoration of fan representation to the Dens Park board.

These discussions are progressing in a positive manner but, given the extent to which the relationship between the two groups deteriorated over several years, there remains some distance to go before we arrive at an agreed position. We feel that for a fans’ representative to be successful, their addition to the board has to be done in a positive manner that adds value to the club and its supporters.

We sincerely hope that the positive dialogue we have had since New Year lays the foundation for a fresh start that will allow us to represent our members – and the wider support – at board level, supporting the club’s development and helping to grow our fan base while also asking challenging questions when appropriate.

Gardyne visit and DSA meeting

I visited Gardyne campus on Wednesday to present the findings of our season ticket survey. A total of 200 members responded, with many taking the opportunity to ask other questions of the club.

We will share the results and their responses to the most asked questions with you all shortly and acknowledge the club’s decision to reduce early bird prices by £15.

After that meeting, myself and several other Dee4Life directors met with the committee of the Dundee Supporters Association.

This builds on our improving relations with the DSA over the past year and it was very obvious from our meeting that the same hopes and concerns are shared across both groups.

Combined we represent a substantial part of the Dundee fan base and we will work together closely in pursuit of our common goals.

The Dundee players celebrate a goal in our recent win over Ayr United.
Image: Derek Gerrard Photography

Earlier that day, Greg Fenton had reaffirmed his intention to meet with supporters’ groups, including Dee4Life, in the close season and we welcome this.

The more communication and engagement that takes place, the more likely it is that the club and fans will move forward as one.

In the meantime, I would encourage as many of you as possible to take advantage of the reduced admission offering for tomorrow’s vital home clash with Hamilton.

Times are tough for many people right now, so we were pleased to see ticket prices slashed to just £15 for the game. Let’s hope for a bumper crowd to cheer the Mighty Dark Blues on to victory.

Kenny Valentine
Trust Director

Norrie Price steps down as Chair

I am sad to report that that Norrie Price has decided to step down as Dee4Life Chair though he will remain an active member of our Board. He became a director several years ago and held the position of Secretary before assuming the Chair last year.

It is vital for any organisation to have a diversity of opinion and it is fair to say that Norrie is not shy when it comes to getting his point across! He argues passionately for what he believes to be in the best interests of Dundee FC, while respecting other viewpoints and the democratic process.

Norrie played an important role in ensuring that Dee4Life survived a difficult few years and was instrumental in introducing new directors to bolster the Board. I am personally thankful to him for bringing me on board, and for his leadership, support and friendship.

Norrie (above) said, “I am pleased that in my time as an office bearer we have seen a transition to a more modern and streamlined setup. Also that the age profile amongst the directors has been reduced and the resultant influx of fresh blood has driven an increased membership level to almost 500.

“However, I feel great frustration at the way the football club itself continues to be operated. This has contributed to my decision to step away from my current position.”

We will update members on the vacant Chair position in due course.

Vice Chair,
Grant Hill

Monthly Update

Dear members, 

Increasing dialogue between Dee4Life and the club has been taking place in recent months, and we are hopeful that this will lead to a stronger relationship that will enable us to better represent Dundee supporters on all the issues that matter to them.

Image: Derek Gerrard Photography.

To that end, we were pleased that Dundee’s General Manager Greg agreed to a Dee4Life proposal for members to route any questions they have about the club through the Trust. We will share further details of how members can submit questions over the next few weeks. Greg also expressed his interest in attending a future Dee4Life meeting to hear from members in person.

That agreement came when our Director Kenny Valentine held another positive meeting with Greg at Gardyne Training Centre last month. At this, Greg confirmed that the club are committed to addressing the problems that some supporters have experienced when trying to gain entry to Dens Park this season.

We have agreed to support them in this endeavour and we hope to share plans for an improved admissions experience shortly.

Dee4Life Director Kenny Valentine.

Kenny (above) also shared feedback from members regarding the cleanliness at Dens. Supporters have noted improvements over recent weeks but also report a few areas where more work is required. Greg was pleased to receive this feedback and confirmed that steps continue to be made to improve the general upkeep of Dens. 

In response to a question raised by one of our members, it was confirmed the club have plans to relaunch the Junior Dark Blues. We have offered our support for this initiative and look forward to helping with a new offering for young Dundee fans. 

Prior to this meeting, Kenny was introduced to John Nelms, spent more than half an hour discussing the relationship between Dundee FC and Dee4Life with him.

Elsewhere, Directors George McIrvine and Scott Lorimer represented the Trust at the recent Dundee FC Sponsors’ evening at the Invercarse Hotel. 

Board members George McIrvine (centre) and Scott Lorimer (second right) represented Dee4Life at the recent Dundee FC Sponsors' Dinner. The are pictured with players Luke Hannant and Max Anderson.
Board members George McIrvine (centre) and Scott Lorimer (second right) represented Dee4Life at the recent Dundee FC Sponsors’ Dinner.

The evening was well attended, with players and management staff taking time to chat with guests.
George and Scott had good conversations with Luke Hannant and Max Anderson, who they shared a table with, and both took an interest in hearing about the work Dee4Life does. 

The more members we have, the more successful our efforts will be. Please encourage fellow Dees to sign up to the Trust as we aim to provide a voice for supporters.

Best wishes,
Grant Hill (Vice Chair)

Chairman’s monthly update

Dear members,

The most notable piece of work we carried out in January was undoubtedly being able to inform you that Dundee will remain at Dens Park for the 2023/24 season. 

Speculation about the imminent sale of Dens, the Camperdown Park development and potential groundsharing has been the biggest concern expressed by members in recent months.

So we were pleased when General Manager Greg Fenton confirmed to our director Kenny Valentine that we will still be playing at Dens next season

We again thank Greg for taking time to address members’ concerns and hope we can build on recent dialogue to strengthen our relationship with the club.

While this was welcome news in regards to the immediate future, Dee4Life will continue to ask questions about the impact of the stadium proposals on the club and all matters of importance to Dundee supporters. 

Given that we will remain at our traditional home for the next season, we have also raised concerns around the general cleanliness of Dens and enquired about the possibility of reinstating a pay at the turnstile. Matters surrounding the series of postponements this month have also been discussed with Greg and we will keep members up to date with any further updates. 

Kenny Valentine hands over some of the hot water bottles we donated to Greg Fenton at Dundee's Gardyne Campus base.
Kenny Valentine hands over some of the hot water bottles we donated to Greg Fenton at Dundee’s Gardyne Campus base.

When meeting with Greg, Kenny also handed over 168 hot water bottles for Dundee FC Community Trust’s winter support program, which provides a vital service to those most in need in the wider community. 

Liaison officer George McIrvine attended Saturday’s DSA meeting. It was interesting to hear the views of their members and learn more about their work and conversations with the club. George also talked about the work that we have been doing recently.

While Gary Bowyer is making adjustments to his playing squad, there have also been a couple of changes within Dee4Life. 

Firstly, Douglas Tott resigned from his position as Director on the board. Douglas took on his role last February after first volunteering with Dee4Life in January 2018 and wewish him all the best in his future endeavours. 

Meanwhile, Scott Lorimer has been appointed as our new Communications Director

Scott, who has experience in journalism and public relations, takes over the comms brief from Grant Hill, who will continue in his role as Vice-Chair of Dee4Life. 

Scott was straight into action, handing out Dee4Life flyers at the recent home game against Queen’s Park alongside Grant. 

They were assisted by Grant’s son Elliot, who was paid far in excess of the national living wage for an 8-year-old in the club shop afterwards. 

Young Dee Elliot was on hand to help recruit new members before the Queen's Park game.
Young Dee Elliot was on hand to help recruit new members before the Queen’s Park game.

We welcome those of you who signed up after receiving one of our flyers, bringing our membership up to 428 at the time of writing. 

While pleased at more than doubling our member numbers over the past six months, if each of us could reach out to two or three others, that number could fairly swiftly reach our medium-term target of 1,000.

That would be significant progress and give Dee4Life an ever-increasing voice so please encourage your friends and family to sign up at dee4life.com

Finally, minutes from our most recent Board meeting are now available to view for Members when they log in to the website.
 
Kind regards,
Norrie Price,

Chair

new director appointed

Scott Lorimer

We are delighted to announce that Scott Lorimer has been appointed to the Dee4Life board as our new Communications Director.

Scott is a lifelong Dundee supporter who volunteered with Dee4Life when the club was placed in administration in 2010. He was a journalism student at Stirling University at the time and assisted the Trust on the communications side during that period. He has subsequently gained significant professional experience in journalism and public relations and currently works as an online content producer.

Scott takes over the comms brief from Grant Hill, who will continue in his role as Vice-Chair of Dee4Life.